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A depressed Iraqi's reflections on some great quotes
There are many lovely quotes out there, but these are much more wiserthan to be considered ‘just lovely’. I’ve commented on some of them, but unfortunately not at one of my best moments.
“Years later, when I got to college, I learned about an important theory of psychology called Learned Helplessness, developed by Dr. Martin E. P. Seligman. This theory, backed up by years of research, is that A GREAT DEAL OF DEPRESSION GROWS OUT OF A FEELING OF HELPLESSNESS: THE FEELING THAT YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOUR ENVIRONMENT.”
- Measuring how much it is impossible to change one’s environment in Iraq, can give you a hint of the ‘great deal of depression’ that is growing out for us Iraqis
Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame.
Laurence J. Peter
- Well, I chose one, but unfortunately he did not even get a chair in the new national assembly, so the one I chose will not be blamed after all.
The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained by sudden flights, but they, while their companion slept, were toiling upward in the night.
- I’ve spent many nights working and keeping myself awake just by reminding myself of this quote, but unfortunately now we have a curfew at night so we cannot go toiling upward in the night ;-)
Management is not to make people work, but to make it possible for people to work
- I am a technical manager, and I’ve tried to follow this advice, but in Iraq ‘it is impossible to make it possible’ for people to work.
“Architecture is the art of how to waste space.”
—Phillip Johnson
- I’ll send this to my brother :D
" A man is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits."
President R. M. Nixon
- I am on the verge of quitting, so if I leave this country to avoid quitting, what will this action be considered?
"We are going to do something terrible to you. We are going to deprive you of an enemy" a top Soviet official addressing the Americans
- America: It is strange how much this statement is true, and how the US officials quickly managed to find a way around this.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." Herman Goring at the Nuremberg Trials
- I worry that this is what the Americans, and our governments are really doing. I do hope this is not the case.
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." Nietzsche
- America and any new Iraqi government, please be careful.
I do fear that when any new Iraqi government tries to follow up and catch terrorists or any of those whom it thinks are a source of threat, the government will reach a point where it will follow the same techniques that Saddam did in stopping those opposing him.
" Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstien
- I thank God that I have a little of both.
"Oil is too important to be left to the Arabs." Henry Kissinger
- Well, it has not been really left to the Arabs at any time. So don’t worry
"I touch the future. I teach." Christa McAuliffe, Arab-American Astronaut
- I do hope to touch the future sometime in the future.
In 1998 I taught a course of Advanced Engineering Mathematics, I paid more money to the parking man at the university parking than the university paid me! but I touched the future then, I was happy with that then, but also, I was broke then. It would help to gain some money while touching the future.
"Be the change that you want to see in the world." Gandhi
- Believe me, I am doing my best.
"If you hit bottom, there is no way but up" Arabic proverb
- We Iraqis, and for the past 35 years, we’ve always thought that we had hit the bottom, but amazingly enough, it always turns out that what we had hit was not yet the real bottom. This situation still holds.... Please define ‘bottom’ we do need to know where we stand.
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it."
Chinese Proverb
- If at any point in time, I will say that the situation in Iraq has reached a point that it is beyond repair, please remind me of this quote.
Despite all this, I still believe that in two years time, Iraq ‘will start to see some improvement and will start the rebuilding process. What I am worried about is the next couple of years till this starts happening.
There are many lovely quotes out there, but these are much more wiserthan to be considered ‘just lovely’. I’ve commented on some of them, but unfortunately not at one of my best moments.
“Years later, when I got to college, I learned about an important theory of psychology called Learned Helplessness, developed by Dr. Martin E. P. Seligman. This theory, backed up by years of research, is that A GREAT DEAL OF DEPRESSION GROWS OUT OF A FEELING OF HELPLESSNESS: THE FEELING THAT YOU CANNOT CONTROL YOUR ENVIRONMENT.”
- Measuring how much it is impossible to change one’s environment in Iraq, can give you a hint of the ‘great deal of depression’ that is growing out for us Iraqis
Democracy is a process by which the people are free to choose the man who will get the blame.
Laurence J. Peter
- Well, I chose one, but unfortunately he did not even get a chair in the new national assembly, so the one I chose will not be blamed after all.
The heights by great men reached and kept were not attained by sudden flights, but they, while their companion slept, were toiling upward in the night.
- I’ve spent many nights working and keeping myself awake just by reminding myself of this quote, but unfortunately now we have a curfew at night so we cannot go toiling upward in the night ;-)
Management is not to make people work, but to make it possible for people to work
- I am a technical manager, and I’ve tried to follow this advice, but in Iraq ‘it is impossible to make it possible’ for people to work.
“Architecture is the art of how to waste space.”
—Phillip Johnson
- I’ll send this to my brother :D
" A man is not finished when he is defeated. He is finished when he quits."
President R. M. Nixon
- I am on the verge of quitting, so if I leave this country to avoid quitting, what will this action be considered?
"We are going to do something terrible to you. We are going to deprive you of an enemy" a top Soviet official addressing the Americans
- America: It is strange how much this statement is true, and how the US officials quickly managed to find a way around this.
"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country." Herman Goring at the Nuremberg Trials
- I worry that this is what the Americans, and our governments are really doing. I do hope this is not the case.
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster." Nietzsche
- America and any new Iraqi government, please be careful.
I do fear that when any new Iraqi government tries to follow up and catch terrorists or any of those whom it thinks are a source of threat, the government will reach a point where it will follow the same techniques that Saddam did in stopping those opposing him.
" Imagination is more important than knowledge." Albert Einstien
- I thank God that I have a little of both.
"Oil is too important to be left to the Arabs." Henry Kissinger
- Well, it has not been really left to the Arabs at any time. So don’t worry
"I touch the future. I teach." Christa McAuliffe, Arab-American Astronaut
- I do hope to touch the future sometime in the future.
In 1998 I taught a course of Advanced Engineering Mathematics, I paid more money to the parking man at the university parking than the university paid me! but I touched the future then, I was happy with that then, but also, I was broke then. It would help to gain some money while touching the future.
"Be the change that you want to see in the world." Gandhi
- Believe me, I am doing my best.
"If you hit bottom, there is no way but up" Arabic proverb
- We Iraqis, and for the past 35 years, we’ve always thought that we had hit the bottom, but amazingly enough, it always turns out that what we had hit was not yet the real bottom. This situation still holds.... Please define ‘bottom’ we do need to know where we stand.
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it."
Chinese Proverb
- If at any point in time, I will say that the situation in Iraq has reached a point that it is beyond repair, please remind me of this quote.
Despite all this, I still believe that in two years time, Iraq ‘will start to see some improvement and will start the rebuilding process. What I am worried about is the next couple of years till this starts happening.
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When you are having trouble controling your environment remember Allah is sovereign over our universe.
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Dear Ahmed,
Until I saw the last paragraph, I thought, keep all sharp objects
away from this guy. But Thank
God for that last paragraph, and things my friend will become better in Iraq. Keep fighting the good fight, it's all that you as a person can do. And stay strong
for your children.
Dear Ahmed, thank you for sharing with us.
When I think of my Iraqi blog friends -- it's silly, I know, but what else can I do? -- I imagine a bubble surrounding them. Pink and green. Hope. Dreams. Safety and security. Love. Peace.
-- Tilli (Mojave Desert)
PS -- do you know the Elvis Costello song:
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"There's nothing wrong with falling into a bucket of shit. It's only a problem if you don't get out".
My dad, 1973.
P.S. - Thank you for your blog. I enjoy reading what you have to say.
Ahmed, young man you are very bright and you will make your mark.
Remember, as Sir WC said, never, never, never, never, never, give up!
God Bless!
"Being defeated is often a temporary condition. Giving up is what makes it permanent."
-- Marilyn Vos Savant
Please, don't give up on Iraq.
Believe me, I'm not me without you.. Every one of my family knows that whatever happens, I try to act like you. When I was in the 3rd grade, I hung a piece of paper on the wall, reminding myself to get good marks like yours.
Maybe I won't get to where you are, but I'm sure you have CHANGED my life!
"Any change, even a change for the better, is always accompanied by drawbacks and discomforts."
Arnold Bennett
"Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are."
Bertolt Brecht
Najma,
Your comment meant the world to me.
I am so proud to be your uncle.
It's good to hear from you again. I hope your predictions are correct. I find it difficult to be optimistic now but I hope the Iraqi people achieve peace, prosperity and happiness soon.
Ev
"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." T. Jefferson.
Sad but true. You must persevere for yourself, your children, your country and for those who have given their lives that you might have the opportunity.
Hello Ahmed,
Wonderful, remarkable quotes. You are too intelligent, too clever to fail.
The astronomer Laplace calculated that the probability that the sun will rise tomorrow, given that it has never failed to in the past, was PR=d+1/(d+2)
where d is the number of times the sun has risen in the past. Laplace was fully aware of the absurdity of the result; immediately following the example, he wrote, "But this number [i.e., the probability that the sun will rise tomorrow] is far greater for him who, seeing in the totality of phenomena the principle regulating the days and seasons, realizes that nothing at the present moment can arrest the course of it."
Everyday the violence continues, the 'probability' of it persisting goes down. Ask Pierre-Simon Laplace.
Hi Ahmed,
Based on the events over the past few weeks, I'm personally quite optimistic as to what Iraq will evolve to. Consider these points:
1. The recent election, while it was admittedly not flawless, had a better turnout and less problems than typical elections in the United States and other established democracies. A surprisingly good start.
2. After the new government takes power, it will rob the insurgents of most of the legitimacy they currently possess. Hopefully some of them will see things going in a positive direction, put their guns away, and go home. This process will also make it harder for the die-hard insurgents and foreign terrorists to hide, making it easier to arrest them.
3. Once the violence ebbs, the US troops will go back to their bases, and eventually go home.
4. Once the violence stops, it will become more possible to improve infrastructure (roads, telephones, electrical, etc.), the condition of which are likely impairing the Iraqi economy at present.
5. If all these things fall into place, Iraq will be in good shape: a stable democracy, rich in natural resources, and with a highly educated populace. In short, a fertile land for foreign investment. If you get big companies pumping money into Iraq and creating jobs, it would create ripples to other areas of the economy (services businesses, hotels, stores, restaurants, etc.)
Obviously, there are a few hurdles that still need to be cleared before this scenario could play out, but based on the events in the past few weeks, I think it is quite plausible.
Shawn.
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt man doing it."
Chinese Proverb
- If at any point in time, I will say that the situation in Iraq has reached a point that it is beyond repair, please remind me of this quote. - Ahmed
This has got to be my favorate comment you have made in a long, long time! Be asured I will continue to follow your blog, and will jump in to remind you of it if the need arises!
Great post, Ahmed. Thanks and take care.
Kissenger quotes
"illegal is a sick bird"
"It would be better if neither side won" (regarding the brutal war between Iraq and Iran)
I wish I could change the past but I cannot, however the future belongs to me:) (ps: I am not a bastard like kissenger and he is probably going to die in prison, just wait:)
What great quotes! And I love your comments below each one! I got to your blog through Najma's (aunt najma's blog). And perhaps the bottom has come already. America's looking for fresh blood - Iran, perhaps. Who knows? I really think sometimes that the Oval Office has a little pinboard with the world map on it. Once a month, they throw a dart and depending on which country it hits, they go for it. That's the only logical explanation for this madness. And it doesn't seem like stopping anytime soon.
Ahmed;
Yet one more quote to consider. My personal favorite.
When you take that first step into the darkness of the unknown.
You must have faith that you will either have something firm to stand on or...You will learn to fly.
Anonymous author.
My heart is with you and your people.
Sir, I wish to express my admiration for you and your family. I have found great value in reading all of your family's blogs.
My particular interest comes from having a daughter serving in the US Army as a combat medic in Mosul. I want to find out what kind of people she and her comrades are sacrificing for (I know you would disagree with that characterization--but I know her heart and of many of her comrades and have great hopes for the future of the Middle East). I have learned from you and others that Iraq is full of great potential and is due a glorious future.
I hope for a future which can justify all the suffering on all sides. Liberty has always come at a terrible price. With all due respect, Iraq has suffered less than many societies who have struggled to achieve such an opportunity.
You quote a Soviet General and associate yourself with the opinion expressed that America has invented an enemy to replace the Soviet Union. With all due respect, that is ignorant and seems out of character with much of what you seem to relate. The Soviets opposed liberty and threatened ours. Many of the nations oppressed by the Soviet system are now fighting by our side as willing and grateful allies. Radical Islam has chosen to be the enemy of liberty and will suffer the same fate as did the Soviets. The oppresion of Arab society, to which America was an indirect participant in the past as part of the Cold War, is falling as did the Berlin Wall. It will happen before we realize. Exceptional persons such as yourself will be among the beneficiaries. The sacrifice of Iraqis and coalition forces will have not been in vain.
The leftists and naysayers have been proven wrong again and again. They were wrong in the Cold War, and they will be proven wrong once more.But freedom isn't free as American soldiers know better than anyone ever has.
We in the U.S. had hoped we had been deprived of an enemy after the Soviet collapse; e woke up from that dream on 9/11/01.
As for Iraq: when one reaches bottom, a few people are dumb enough to try to dig deeper. Your job is to take your shovel, bang it over the head of these 'insurgents' (beheaders and mosque bombers are terrorists), then getting back on top of things will be easier.
Don't give up yet; things will get better.
Now I am not that good at telling people to be happier with their life than they are, and certainly not if their situation is definitely tougher than what I have to deal with. So, what am i doing here if i can't give some positive words to you?
But I will try to share some of my thoughts that from time to time want to level the absurdities as what 'world' confronts us all with on a daily basis, just to deal better with it and not getting too pessimistic.
Okay then, here we go:
As we all know the Dutch troups are moving out of Iraq, as was agreed earlier. But, 'we' Dutch would have all the reason to behave as 'we' did in earlier times: occupying some countries in east, west, and south and just tell everywhere around that we 'discovered' them.
Yes, it is true, indeed we do need land because we are among the ones that will really suffer the climate change, that lately and greatly was rediscovered as: 'Coming to you soon!'.
The Netherlands is below the sea level, and will for big parts disappear under the water. Within one generation they said. Yesyestheydid! We are also a bit dense populated country. We need land!! But what do we do?
We leave Iraq. We have no plans (agenda: no no wrong word) to occupy the USofA while they have lots of that 'blessed' stuff. And instead of keeping or retaking the former colonies Suriname and/or The Dutch Antillees, the policy is to tell these countries to back-off and cut connections.
Have they -the politicians- been drugged or what?
So yep. I guess i am right if i think we learned again nothing and we will once again end up creating some sandy-land in the sea, once again according to the Dutch saying: 'God created the world, but the Dutch created their land'.
Giuliana Sgrena was freed today by Italian intelligence. No blitz was necessary, no guns, no force.
BUT...
While Sgrena was going to the Bagdad Airport with three agents of Italian Intelligence, America soldiers fired to the car. One of the agents protected Sgrena with his body. He was killed by American fire. Sgrena and the other two agents had been injured. Agents had no weapons. An happy ending was transformed to a tragedy.
In Italy we still do not understand if USA sent to Iraq a "professional" army. Hard to think to those guys as professionals. :( We have many soldiers there, but we are there to help, not to fire on anybody is moving, allies included.
Dear Dario de Judicibus,
Please try to remember that there is always two sides to the same situation. An intelligent person considers both before coming to his conclusion.
The soldiers at that check point had a car approaching at a very high rate of speed. They attempted to warn the driver to stop by using hand and arm signals, flashing white lights and firing warning shots in front of the car. Insurgents regularly detonate roadside bombs and shoot at military and civilian vehicles along that five-mile road. American soldiers across Iraq are wary of speeding cars approaching checkpoints or convoys. How are they supposed to differentiate between a suicide bomber, and a rescue force that wears civilian clothes, unmarked cars and ignores warnings? Perhaps, the driver of that car was a suicide driver?
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Regarding your comment..."Thanks for giving us our very basic rights. Should we be grateful for that?"
I would certainly hope so! What a pity that you are so inconvenienced. I would hate to think thousands of foreigners and your own countrymen left families gave their lives for your freedom for nothing. These people will never be able to drive their cars again, or take their children to school. These people did not create your countries problems, but were willing to give their lives for every freedom you have and will have as things continue to recover. It should be worth being grateful for! Your country has a very deep cut which will take longer to heal than a scratch.
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